LB User Profiles
The following profiles have been collected from the Liberty Basic Mailing list.  If you are not a member of the list - you are missing out on a very valuable resource for learning more (and helping others).  You can subscribe to the list by visiting the Liberty Basic home page.
This list is far from being complete.  There are over 4000 registered users of LB and possibly even more using the shareware version.
To add your profile to the list - subscribe to the mailing list and introduce yourself to the group.  I promise you that you will be welcomed - so dont be shy!
Here's the list (in the order received).  If the user has a Website - a link has been included.  Email addresses are NOT included. There are too many SPAM merchants around - and I'm not going to give them a free mailing list!!!! (BTW if you want your entry removed from this list - just drop me an email at: brosco@orac.net.au

Harlan - the man who started the introductions!
.....But first I would like to introduce myself. My name is Harlan. I'm a retired gent, quite content, living in the burbs of beautiful St Albert, just north of Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. I use an IPC 486 DX33, 16K ram, windows 3.1, with a whopping 170 meg hard drive:
Just started messing around with programming before Christmas and received my Liberty Basic registration a couple of days ago. Been sitting back in the weeds watching the mail list for a while now, learning everything I could about Liberty Basic.

Tom and Alyce Watson - AKA - Clocker
I suppose I should also introduce myself?  My 12-year-old son, Thomas and I program together.  We came to Wisconsin from Michigan (GO BLUE!) eight years ago.  When not in my right mind, I have been known to teach high school English and math.
So, lets hear from somebody else----
Visit Tom and Alyce at: Clockers Computer Programs

Doyle Whisenant
Well for the last 20 or so years, I have worked in a textile factory making "Wrangler" shirts. I am a mechanic and have about 45 automatic machines (read, run by computers) that I keep running. This plant, run by VF Corporation, is closing in August. It is the last VF shirt factory in the U.S.A. I hate NAFTA.
I have 3 girls and live in North Alabama. But enough rambling...Next?

Joseph M. Ferris
Well, I am a 21 year old CSE major.  I've been married for a little over a year now, and plan on moving to the Seattle area to find better employment.
Liberty Basic is new to me, although I already program in C/C++, Perl, Cobol, and about 3 other flavors of Basic.  Currently I am working on a Hotel system using Liberty Basic for my senior project in school, which I hope to market at it's completion.

Sam Newson
I think is great all the work that is being done with API's. I know I would love to help, but I can,t not due to want, but due to talent, I'm pretty new at programming LB. The only other experience is with Amiga Basic. I've been on this list about 4 months and think its the next best thing to sliced bread. A couple of months before this I brought a $20 (NZ) CD disk with about 2500 zipped shareware programs, and found a verson 1.2 Liberty Basic. After playing around with it for a while I was hooked. Sent my reg. fee ($90 NZ) and one month later to my delight verson 1.4 arrived. After seeing that it had a internet address, I brought a modem and joined the internet. I work for a Building Company in Christchurch New Zealand. I use to be the roof truss fabicator, but now design them on a program could Mitek 2000. I also work with Excel quite alot.I feel like I,m the only one in New Zealand that uses LB. I'm sure that many more would also love LB. Just like to say thanks again to all your good work. By the way New Zealand is a small country to the left of Austraila with about 4 million people and 60 million sheep.

Doug Johnson - AKA - Dzzoner
I have been using LB for about a year. I also worked designing roof trusses. I currently work for a company that makes truss plates, design software (Like the Mitek 2000), and truss fabricating equipment.

Chris Robertson
Don't worry sam you're not alone. I am a 26 yr old ex-retail mgr, now a management student in Auckland, NZ. I too would love to contribute more (or at all) but I only discovered the joy of computers two years ago (when I started my degree), and only started programming at all at xmas 97. I think I am getting somewhere but not far enough obviously. Despite reports, Auckland does have power, but very few sheep.

Mike Stewart
I'm a freshman in a High School near Spokane, WA. I started programming when I discovered QuickBASIC about 2 years ago. I have been programming since. I've used FirstBASIC, QB, GW-BASIC. About 5 months ago I moved to LB. Haven't Done Much, but I like programming in Windows. I am ver knowledgeable with the HTML format, and I will have a page out soon. I use a 386 with 8 MG RAM, and a 210 MG Hard Drive. My OS is Windows 95.

marc leon
In Spain we have a lot of bulls .... ( sheep also ;)) wanna know more about me visit http://www.ctv.es/USERS/marcleon
just click on the first image ( marcleon )

Garrett
This is one of the aspects of Liberty Basic you don't, and won't find anywhere else on the net... LB has some of the greatest Users, and it's such a refreshing deal to have such an easy programming language, and Users who treat you like family. :-) I don't think you can even get that at McDonalds.. ;-) Hello, I'm Garrett, and I should be in a Rehabilitation Program for my Addiction to Liberty Basic.. heheheheheheheeeee I'm 30 something, going on 18, and that's because LB makes me feel like a kid again. Been married for 10 years now, and have 3 Kool Kids to go with it. :-) I have over 3 years of HTML under my belt, and it's because of HTML that I found LB. I really got tired of not finding an HTML editor that had just what I wanted in it, so I decided to make my own HTML editor. Well, I must have spent 3 months looking for the right Programming language.. And if you think that there isn't that many out there, your dead wrong. I must have sifted through about 50 languages, and I even didn't touch the tip of it all. I finally came across Liberty Basic just as I was about to give up the search, and have been addicted ever since. That was about a year ago, and I still haven't made my HTML editor yet.. :-( Lets just say I got a wee bit carried away making programs in LB.. :-) I didn't have any other programming experience with the exception of the HTML, and I don't really consider that programming... HTML is more like DOS Batch files to me. You can see some of the programs that I have made at my Puffin Works site located at: http://www.in-syte.com/PuffinWorks And what you see there is not all LB produced programs.. so don't get upset if you figure out that one of the programs isn't a LB program. And of the LB programs I do have there, they are only a small list of the actual programs that I have made in LB. Yes... Other languages.. LB gave me the abilities and knowledge I needed to learn a few other languages.. but I'll never leave LB. :-) I've spent the last 5 years Self/Unemployed by fixing PC's, Desktop Publishing and Web Site Design. The reason I added Unemployed, is because it's not always constant work. Before that, I spent 5 nice and quiet years in the US Army... The nice and quiet is a joke folks.. heheheheheeeee I live in University Place, Washington, USA... which I don't expect people to know where that is, so I'll give you a landmark to identify by.. I'm about 20 miles south of Seattle Washington, and I can see MT Rainier as big as life.. Some of you might be able to realate to MT Saint Helens, which blew it's stack about a couple of decades ago. I'm north of there. Oh, BTW, I was just about 60 miles north of it when it went off.. I was fishing (sleeping!) in the middle of a lake when it went off, and didn't even notice it. I thought it was just getting foggy out.. ;-) And yes! I do have Webbed Feet! And I don't tan, I rust. Also, with all this talk about Sheep, I hope we don't start getting a bunch of B-a-a-a-a-d jokes going now.. I mean it now, No "Bull" about it.. If Euw even think about it, We'll grab you by the horns, and put the shears to Euw. So don't even try to pull the wool over our eyes on this now. heheheheheheeeee ;-) Oh, and we don't have any Sheep here, nor Bulls.. Just Seagulls, Crows, Salmon and Microsoft Jokes. If you go to Spokane where Mike is, you might pick up a Rattle Snake or two.. ;-) And who ever that was who is thinking about moving to Seattle for Employment, send me an email at: garrett@in-syte.com Maybe I can help you from here.. I can send you a Seattle News Paper or something. I don't know about MS hiring, but I know Boeing is on a massive hiring spree right now. Well, I think this is enough bandwidth hogging for today. Next introduction please.......
(NOTE from the Webmaster - After you have been to the Liberty Basic Home Page to get your copy of LB - Garrett's LB4ALL site is the number 1 place to go for the most comprehensive compilation of LB resources. Additionally, he hosts a message board for posting questions and a Chat facility where we try to get together every few weeks.)

Marc E. Mosher
My name is Marc, I'm 31, single but in a relationship for 8 years. Have been programming in one language or another since I was 15 or 16. Mostly BASIC, though, 'cause it's easy! I've found Liberty BASIC to be the best yet. I've worked in electronics, radio, and computers since I got out of school and currently do free lance work in all three of the above fields, including graphics and HTML. Check out my Webpage. My interests include radios and scanner, electronics, computers, cars, science fiction, flight simulators (my Flight Simulator 5 disks got corrupted - a great loss), some card collecting, reading, mountain biking and trail hiking (have webpages up for 6 of the above, including maps for all mountain biking and hiking trails around here!). I also run a mailing list for the local area. I live in upper New York state, near Watertown, about 30 miles south of the Canadian border. Watertown is home of the the Paddock Arcade - the oldest covered shopping mall in continuous operation in the country, Jefferson County is the birthplace of chloroform (Doctor Samuel Guthrie of Sackets Harbor used it for anesthesia), the brown paper bag, shredded wheat, the Hitchcock lamp, the railroad sleeping car (invented by Woodruff), bedsprings, Car Freshener, Croghan Bologna, Philadelphia Cream Cheese (from the Philadelphia here in NY, not in PA), and of course Thousand Islands Dressing (mayonnaise with chili sauce and seasonings - chopped pimentos, green peppers, and onion). Famous people who have lived in the Jefferson County area include Melville Dewey of the Dewey Decimal System, Secretaries of State John Foster Dulles (Watertown's Dulles Office Building is named after him) and Robert Lansing (a street is named after Lansing), NY State Governor Roswell P. Flower (the Flower Memorial Library is named after the governor), famous author Marietta Holley (who lived in the Adams area), Waldorf Astoria owner George Boldt (who built the fabulous castle which is on Heart Island), Napoleon's brother Joseph Bonaparte is rumored to have lived in Cape Vincent for a time, actors Richard Grieco and Viggo Moretsen (the Master Cheif from G.I. Jane), Mary Margaret Humes (a runner-up for Miss America and actress), stage actress Eugenie Besserer (born December 25, 1868 in Watertown died May 30, 1934 in Los Angeles, California), and Scotty Mattraw (who had a place called Scotty's Eatable Eats in Watertown and later left for Hollywood and became an actor). Fort Drum, near by Watertown, is one of the largest military reservations in the U.S. I don't post much because I'm still learning the ins and outs of Liberty BASIC and just plain haven't had time to come up with much of interest to others. I ran across Liberty BASIC while looking for some way to compile Qbasic programs and also searching for utilities for BASICBASIC. I downloaded Liberty BASIC, converted a program I use in BASICBASIC all the time to Liberty BASIC, and was hooked. I got back on the webpage and looked for other utilities and more info about the language and that was when I ran across the message from the author of Liberty BASIC offering a free registered copy to anyone who made a webpage up concerning it. So I did so, posted the address to all the search engines I could get my hands on to, and put a couple programs on to download. Check it out . I am currently working on two Liberty BASIC projects. One is a database system for my girlfriend's serial killer database, complete with pictures (yes, a strange hobby but she likes it). And the other one is a modification of a screensaver techniques that were posted a little while ago. The program calls the Internet using my dialer and runs a weather data and forecast gathering program (WinWeather) as well as Yahoo Newsticker, it then logs off, processes this data from the respective files where the data is stored, blanks the screen, and then scrolls this across for a screensaver. Every hour it re-logs on and updates the data. I have this pretty much finished except for a nagging little problem I've run into to. Whew! Enough about me! Next.

Robin Twombly
It has been great hearing from so many on the list about where they live and What they do. I fear my life is not so interesting. My name is Robin, I am a male. This sometimes get confused with my name. I am married and have 3 great kids. Just had the 3rd a daughter on Feb. 14th. Beautiful girl. I ran in Liberty Basic on ZDnet and love it. I grew up with a Ex-Navy Father Techie who could program anything. He works for a company making hardware and software for remote controlled mining machinery. I have 2 jobs. I work as a Pastor in a small church here in Maine. I also work for BlueCross of Maine as a Specification design Analyst. (big title for System tester). Basically I test our systems to see if they break, It is a great job. I love to program and have been using LibBasic since November 1997. I have made 2 programs for my department, mostly PC Network programs to track how much time we spend on individual projects so we can bill our time and keep track for each others projects. I also have programmed in PowerBuilder, Visual Basic, QBasic, and Borlands Paradox using Object Pal. I find programming a great break from Pastoring, but being a Minister is where my heart is. I will do my best to Contribute as well as confiscate from this Mail list. I do love the sharing of Code and Ideas with this list. It is surpassed by none.

Cliff Bros - AKA - Brosco
I've programmed - proffessionally and as a hobby - for 30 years on everthing from IBM mainframes down to PCs and have used around a dozen computer languages - but I had never programmed with MsWindows until I got a copy of LB in Dec 97. (I did give Delphi and Visual Basic a try - but they were just to complicated and confusing). My computer career has been very good to me - giving me the oportunity to travel all over the world (something over 20 countries I've visited, most of them many times) plus live in 3 other countries (England - 1 year, Singapore 10 years and Thailand 2 years). But the lifestyle also provided two broken marriages - which produced 3 children and 2 grandchildren. I live a much quieter life now running my own business - Brosco's Home Computer Services - which provides Training, Installation, Upgrades, Repairs and Internet services to the home computer market. Like Garrett, the workload varies - and so I end up with a lot of time on my hands - most of which I use to develop LB programs. The reason that the workload is small, is that when I returned to Australia to live I chose to locate to Canberra (Australia's Capital). 90% of the population here are public servants and have PCs on their desk and access to Helpdesks - hardly in need of my services for their home computer. I will probably relocate to another city in the near future. ANY ozzies out there interested in a joint venture?????
Visit Brosco's LB Page

Johan van Uffelen
My name is Johan van Uffelen and I live in Maassluis, a small city near Rotterdam in The Netherlands. My age is 53 years. I worked for IBM for 32 years. I started as Unit Record operator, after that I was a programmer for a couple of years on IBM's 360/20 (RPG) followed by PL/I on the mainframe. I can read Cobol and Assemble because I had to do the maintenance of some standard programs. After 3-4 years working as programmer a worked as Systems Engeneer for the IBM Global Network. So I was responsable for the connecting of PC's, AS/400 and mainframes, mostly in an international project. In that time a sometimes wrote some PL/I programs or DOS-Basic programs for customers. One year ago I left IBM to start working for one of my large customers "Kadaster" (= Land Registry). I am installing the software on PC's and do trouble shooting. Because a part of the programs are DOS-based I was searching an easy way to replace the DOS-Basic-programs in Windows- programs. End last year I found Liberty Basic. I wrote the program I wanted in LB. I had not much time to do it. I was surprised how quick I created something that works. If couse I had some trouble. I was very glad that people like Brosco helped me. I hope my customer will accept my program (without profitt for me, I did it as hobby) . If so the program will be installed at near 2.000 sides. (I am crossing my fingers my programm will be bug-free.) Best regards to all and I hope my English looks like English.(Often it is difficult for me to understand the messages of real English speaking LB-friends).

Verano111
Hello gang, I am a retired aerospace worker and 1st got invovled with computers when our metal cutting machines went from manual to CNC operated. My main focus is getting math formulas into a program, mostly for fun, but sometimes for a REAL JOB. The 1st CNC I worked on had a bunch of wires in a grid for it's CPU, read 25 blocks of info ahead and that was it. If we would have a power surge or a ground spike in power supply it was every man for himself, as the machine would drop bytes of info and start doing some crazy things, like move a tool into the work piece 4 inchs instead of .004 inches. That was good prove of 1 of the laws of physics, 2 things cannot be in same place at the same time. I live in western N.Y.state,USA Good Luck to all of you and nice belonging to such a great group

Brian McKiernan
Guess I'll ante up on introductions. I'm 41 and live in Kansas City, Kansas. I've been married 18 years and have 3 children (12, 9, 5). For the past 10 years I've taught physical therapy at the University of Kansas Medical Center here in Kansas City. I'm also trying to finish my PhD in physiology (in my spare time). ;-) I starting playing with GW-BASIC about 12 years ago. Moved to QuickBASIC about 7 years ago. Actually put a program on the shareware market in '93. It was a "Minesweeper" clone called "Bomb Squad" that ran under DOS. Thousands of downloads from CompuServe and various BBS's. A couple of complimentary e-mails. Not a single registration. I used QuickBASIC to write all the task control programs for the lab I'm getting my PhD (six different programs in all). Got a lot of experience using QuickBASIC to communicate with A/D boards and touch screen monitors. However, I got very sick of spending the majority of my time writing a mousable GUI interface for my programs. I bought and tried VB---yuk! Then I found LB (I think through ZD Net). What a neat program! I'm using LB mainly to write small utilities for the office, data analysis programs for my students at the university and educational programs for my kids. I also keep up the web pages for our department and the state physical therapy association. It's not LB related, but you can visit me on the web at: www.kumc.edu/SAH/pted I think the LB community is absolutely great. Keep up the good work everyone. I'll try to pitch in with what I can.

Tom Record
age: crotchety 60
sex: not in 20 yrs (male)
physically impared - heart (91) & got run over by a 40 mph car Feb 97.
Electronics design & repair (did the flight control panels in the Lunar Landers & the trainer for the landings. Donno if my space potty survived into the shuttle or not. Still have instruments operating in foreign oil fields & had a hamburger joint in Baghdad before the 1958 revolution). Have tried VB2, MSVC, VC++ 6 & 7, LayWin3, QB, QB45, & looked at about a dozen or so others. Started w/ LB11 in 1994 & got a workable window the first try. Been battling the shortcomings ever since because I never wanna do "just" what's allowed. Took nearly 3 yrs to get something other than just *.bmp into LB, what w/ misunderstandings & difficult communications. Am presently learning GFA-W (compiles *.exe & *.dll). For a month or 2, the AOl site will remain up but once I get Crosswinds operational, am moving. http://members.aol.com/trecore/program/program.htm Many of the files asked about recently are on AOL. http://www.crosswinds.net/tulsa/~tomrecord/ Will replace AOL soon. I hope.

Taylor Stearns
Well, I guess you rightfully deserve my intro., so here goes. I share two things in common with Robin. 1) I don't have an interesting life. 2) I am a male, which not everybody knows by my name. I'm a 12 year old kid living in Canterbury Connecticut. I lived in Augusta County in Virginia until I was 6. That's right, I didn't live in a town, I lived in a county (really weird, isn't it). QBasic used to be what I programmed with until that period of time when I realized that I wanted to compile my programs. While looking at a list of QBasic compilers I saw a "QBasic compiler" called Liberty BASIC. This obviously didn't compile QB programs, but I didn't know it at that time. I downloaded LB and got hooked. I have an evil 16 year old brother brother who won't stop hurting and annoying me, and a pretty nice 19 year old sister who goes to the University of Pennsylvania (UPenn) which, for those of you who didn't know, is ivy league. I would be VERY surpised if my brother got excepted somewhere like that. Now you've all heard pretty much all there is to know about me, which probably didn't interest you at all.

Allen Norris
I'm older than some and younger than others! (Yeah!!) OK, OK...I'm 47. I'm a consultant in our area of Idaho. I have written several programs for local business' in PowerBASIC. I also develope and compile spreadsheets for both DOS and Windows (3.x and 95). I have dabbled in pascal; asm; modula-2 and java. Hopefully, I'll soon have time to actually try LB...I tried VB a bit and thought it wasn't much more than a scripting language, similar to REXX. (this is not to belittle Rexx, btw!)

Phillip Harris
I am Phillip and 47. I had LB for two Months and it is great. I have used Qbasic in the past. I am having problems reading a file and printing it to the screen, say in a textbox. I live in North Carolina, married 27 Years, with two children and two grandchildren. I am enjoying the maillist, and Bronco, You may add me to the list if you like.

Dean Hodgson
Another Introduction...long winded (what else?) Dean Hodgson. I currently live and work near Adelaide, South Australia. I am employed by the state government's education department (known as DETE and prounced -- wait for it -- 'det'). I am the manager of a very successful school library automation system known as BookMark. It is used by over 1400 schools in Australia (and a few other countries but not the U.S. or Canada or New Zealand) and ranks officially as the second most commonly used software of its type in schools in this country. I am also the project's dogsbody: I wrote the software, maintain it, make sure everything happens, do some support, training and promotion. There are others working for me. BookMark is currently a Dos program written in ZBasic. Databases are commonly 5 to 15Mb in size with over 100 relational files. Prior to this, back in the 1980's, I worked for the Department's now-defunct curriculum computing agency writing classroom software on Commodore 64, Amstrad 6128 and PC machines. I have lost track of how many programs I have written and published but it must be several dozen. Before that, while being a primary school teacher and deputy principal, I moonlighted by writing programs on the Tandy Color Computer & TRS-80-I and the Sega 8-bit computer. My programs were purchased and sold by Tandy Australia and John Sands Electronics (pre 1985). In 1983-4, my Maths Invaders program was Tandy's #1 selling piece of software in Australia. Beside LB, I have worked with over 20 other dialects of Basic on quite a range of computers including the above plus the Apple II, Microbee, Atari ST, Amiga, an HP 7830 desktop computer and the Mac. I have a nodding acquaintance with several other languages -- I used to write in assembler on the C64 (6502) and Amstrad (Z80) machines. Wrote a whole word processor for the C64 in 1985 with only a monitor and a few good resource books. I have spent and wasted an unbelieveable amount of money and time researching languages for the PC. At the moment I am using Liberty Basic and GFA-Basic. My initial dabbling with computers goes back to 1969 when I learned to write Fortran programs via punchcard using an IBM 1401 mainframe. I grew up north of Seattle in Edmonds, Washington and moved to Australia in 1974 when I was offered a teaching position. I am an avid science fiction fan (sorry, not Star Trek, real SF) and have a very large book collection. I also have a long-held interest in astronautics and astronomy dating back to when I was 3 year old before Sputnik 1 (or so Mom says). I know the basic mathematics of orbital mechanics and rocketry, and I am a past secretary of the Adelaide chapter of the National Space Society. I used to run the planetarium at Western Washington State College. My first computer program written on an 8-bit machine simulated the formation of planets around a sun-type star. My second projected the future growth of human population, resource usage, living standards, etc, until 2100 (Limits to Growth model) and included space power supply. I am 46 and have four children -- 2 from the first marriage who are now 24 and 21 and two now aged 6 and 2. I don't feel old enough to be a grandfather but I am. Hardly any grey hairs! My wife is Australian but was born in England. She's a teacher, too.

David681
My name is david681. I am lower management at one of the big 3 telecom companies. I am a process supervisor since I developed on-line flowcharts for use by our troubleshooters. I am a 38 year old left handed pisces musician. I am incorporating hlp files with LB and other executable programs and htm files on the pc, everything run out of an hlp file. I just love the international flavor here. I live in Ohio. I was stationed in Germany and spent 3 months in Cairo. 
Allan W. Jones
Some of you may remember a sheepish (no reference to New Zealand) introduction some months back by a VB-scarred refugee from a high-power, low tolerance, database programming list where "friendly" was a subject and lifestyle unknown to the participants. I remember being worried (thinking like the last list I'd subscribed to) that I'd be flamed into ashes for the "un-kewl" and unheard of interruption of oh-so-serious power users just to say "hello". Well, that didn't happen - the response from many of you was refreshingly human and much appreciated. I'm afraid I've been not much more than a 'lurker' but it's mostly due to time constraints. I have to work for a living...need I say more? As for the intro - My name's Allan, I'm 45 years old or young (I'm measuring the glass right now to see if it's half-empty or half-full...). I've got 3 girls ages 18,20, and 22 all are in college and I'm usually broke. I've been divorced for 14 years and technically, according to the IRS, that makes me single. I write post-processors for various CADCAM systems and have spent most of my life in areas dealing with motion control and CNC machine-tool programming. I have my own business and provide consulting and post-processing services to many businesses here in the state of Oregon where we have rust problems too! I specialize in exotic machinery (5 axis and above) and actually enjoy it most of the time. I've written three utilities in LB now that make my job a little easier and I'm starting a fourth that may make the job go away. It will be a serious project that may be marketable and will certainly be fun - If I had to characterize my experience with LB that's what I'd call it - FUN. Working in C++ and wierd internal scripting languages leaves me feeling about as creative as Bill Gates' barber and LB seems to let me relax enough to enjoy coding for it's own reward. And you guys on this list are the best! I look forward to participating more this year and I've got a HUGE folder of LB mail to draw resources from. I may be a lurker but I'm a religious reader and saver of all interesting and useful postings. I look forward to this list like that first cup of coffee in the morning - it's the friendly nature of it that appeals - and I'd re-register my copy of LB once a month just for the mail! Maybe I need to get a life... PS - I lived in The Netherlands (Breda) for two years between 1966 and 1968. Though I attended a Dutch school and spoke the language somewhat fluently, I can't speak it or read it anymore. Nice to hear from those of you across the pond. 
Todd
I'm 34, live near Toronto, Canada and program strictly for entertainment. I started off with an Atari 16K around 1980 programming with a flavor of basic that was a cartridge plugged into the top of the machine. It could actually display on a color TV (didn't have a monitor back then). I'm still amazed at how compact and powerful the programs that ran on that machine were. I actually did touch on some machine language at the time but I'm sure I've completely forgotten all of it. I then never touched a computer again until 1995. Things had changed just a tad by then. I worked for 14 years in a family business as an interior contractor. The company never used a computer for anything. I am talking trogledytes here. I once tried to talk them into buying an estimating program, then later wrote one, but to no avail. Eventually, they (well into their 70's) decided to retire, and take the company with them. Hence, I am currently self-employed and back to learning anything computer/web oriented. I have designed a couple of web sites for various companies, and am learning a few programming languages. In Dec. of 1997 Santa gave me VB5. It is a nifty program, let me assure you. The first thing I did was run back to Liberty Basic to actually write a program. It is not that VB5 is not robust and powerful, it is simply that for the first time I was actually made aware of how robust and powerful LB is, not to mention simple to use. Try playing a *.wav in VB sometime! I am not much of a contributer to this list, or to the message board simply because I don't feel that I have written anything that hasn't already come up in a discussion. I almost finished a help file writing program once, but well, Brosco beat me to it. I do, however, appreciate the community LB affords through this list and the sites. I like that experienced programmers are willing to help newbies. I am also amazed at the age/experience range of the various participants. I am actually feeling almost young again! 
Lee Tanner
Time to take the plunge with my intro ! Hello one and all. My name is Lee Tanner. I'm 37 years old, married to Joanna and live in Caterham-on-the-Hill in Surrey, England. I work for a company called First Choice CTI as a technical support engineer for Voice Mail and CTI products. I previously worked for Crane Telecom in a similar possition and for BT (British Telecom) for 14 years before that. I had a couple of dead end jobs before BT but none worth comenting on. I became interested in computing in 1980 when I bought and built a Sinclair ZX80. No colour, no sound, no hard disk and a whole 1k of memory. Just imagine it, 1024 bytes (well only about 700 bytes user memory but still alot). When I managed to save up enough money, I expanded it to 4k. I also added a real keyboard, a shift lock key and a switch to change from black text on a white screen to white text on black. Believe it or not, I finally outgrew the ZX80 and bought a much more powerfull Sinclair ZX81 (Good name eh?). As I was earning more money by then, I purchased it complete with a 16k ram pack. I was in the big league now. I taught myself BASIC, Z80 machine code and FORTH on these two computers and wrote about 500,000 programs on them. (OK, ok, a hundred at least) A new era dawned when I moved up to a Commodore VIC20. This had colour, sound, a real keyboard and 5k as standard. Things really took off then. I learnt 6502 machine code. wrote more progs, upgraded to a Commodore 64, had a number of my programs published in listing form in a weekly computer mag called Personal Computing Weekly (I still have them dated 1983 - 1985. Almost antiques) and generally had a fun time. Life changed dramatically when I bought a Commodore Amiga 500. Sixteen bit computing, half a meg of ram, floppy disk, sounds aplenty amd more colours than you could shake a stick at. I looked at my best programming efforts against the worst commercial ones and thought, I can't go on. I could spend my whole life trying to achive the sort of programs sixteen and thirty-two bit computers just throw at you for free. I managed to carry on and eventually downgraded to a Commodore Plus/4. (It would take too long to explain). This was a mear baby by comparison. I could take it on and win (sometimes). Time came for another change of pace. I discovered IBM PC compatibles. (I knew they existed but just tried to ignore them). First an Amstrad PC1512 with 512k ram and twin 5 1/4" floppies, followed by an Amstrad PC7386 with 1 Mb ram and a 40 Mb hard disk. ( I would never fill that. Would I ?). I now have a Tiny 75MHz Pentium PC with 16 Mb ram, a 1Gb hard disk and a Scantak 3C colour flatbed scanner. (great fun to be had). I got into Liberty BASIC after a couple of false starts about a year ago. When I finally gave myself time to check it out properly, I discovered that I loved it to bits. It's deffinitely one of the most compact, friendly, easy and fun versions of BASIC I've used. (I've used a few). I've uploaded a few of my progs to Liberty BASIC 4 All. I'm currently working on a new game but I don't want to say too much about it because I'm not even sure that the basic concept of it will work. It may seem daft, but I'll have to finish first before I can finallise the rules. (Strange !!!!). Well, if anyone is still reading this, I've probably bored the pants off you, so I better finish. Best wishes to all and long live LB. P.S. I can't be bothered to proof-read my ramblings, so I apolagees fer eny speeling mastooks. 



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